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s-kay , 11 May 2010

wound treatment ideas

I'm new to the forum, although not new to picking. I have struggled with this off-and-on for years now. I found this site awhile back and have found it to be a terrific resource for support, information, and advice. I've lurked for awhile now, but thought I'd address an issue that seems underrepresented here: wound care. There's lots of good advice about stopping the picking habit, but for those of us who continually "fall off the wagon," how can you minimize the damage you've already done? I'm not an expert in health care, but my suggestions here are a mixture of research, helpful hints I've found on this site, and lots of trial and error. I hope this helps you, too. The picking process: obviously the best option here is to stop the behavior altogether. Most of us, though, find ourselves doing okay for awhile and then something triggers a picking frenzy. If you do find yourself at that point, the goal is to minimize infection which, of course, can exacerbate the problem. I keep hydrogen peroxide and individual alcohol swabs (cheap and available at any drugstore) handy to sterilize whatever tools I'm using. If you can't resist the urge to pick, at least be sure to clean your needle, tweezers, etc., between every pick (not just between sessions). This not only minimizes transfer infection, but the disinfecting process will slow down the picking process which interrupts the "picking trance" and offers more opportunity to just step away from the mirror. The aftermath: If you find yourself humming along to "Oops, I did it again" the goal now is to prevent infection, encourage healing, and minimize scarring. Some cleansing agents I've found useful can be located in the first aid section of any drug store. I use a sting-free saline spray (in a pressurized can) that cleans and flushes the wound. Be warned that the saline comes out hard/fast so it's likely to spray everywhere. Then I follow up with a sting-free antibiotic rinse (Band Aid makes one but you might find a generic). While this sounds like it would hurt, the saline and antibiotic rinse are truly sting free. DON"T use alcohol because it hurts and avoid peroxide on the wound itself because it will necrotize some of the soft tissue (turning it white). Healing: Nothing beats polysporin (or any triple antibiotic ointment) for healing and minimizing scar formation. Slather it on, then cover immediately with a breatheable bandage (esp. at night). This keeps the ointment from coming off on your pillow and allows for continual healing. I'll do this, too, when I'm at home which then has the added benefit of preventing access to the wound for more picking. I also have a prescription for clindamycin--both as a gel and oral antibiotic. These are meds targeted specifically for facial infection, and they are awesome. (if I can restrain from picking) Scars: Like most of us, I have the tell-tale discolorations of past indiscretions. I've tried several scar minimizers out there but the one I've found most helpful, inexpensive, and pleasant to use is made by Ambi called "Even and Clear." It comes in a tube and the cream absorbs quickly (not greasy or sticky) and smells like cocoa butter. I'm also trying a new treatment for some of my old hard, raised scars. It's a clear, brush-on liquid called "Scarguard MD" that I found at CVS. It's expensive, though ($30). I'll let you know how it works. However, using polysporin and keeping the wound soft should help to minimize thick, sub-dermal scarring. Bandages: My picking centers on my neck and jawline from pre-menopausal acne. (Up until 4 years ago, I've always had beautiful skin). I'm a teacher, so hiding at home isn't an option. Two bandages that have worked well for me are the Band Aid clear "spots" (DO NOT use the generic of this) for home use or places under my jaw that aren't easily seen. For places that are front and center on my face, I use the tiny Nexcare waterproof bandages because the adhesive is truly clear and very, very thin. You can even dab concealer on it and powder to minimize the appearance. If I'm really desperate, I'll even use a large bandage and cut out a small adhesive circle (with no pad) to place directly on the wound so it appears flat. It's not perfect, but it's much less visible than a regular bandage. One caveat, though: Although the waterproof adhesive does allow for makeup on top, it will not allow the wound to breathe. You may find after a couple of hours that the wound will seep from the bandage. Yuck. Obviously this is not healthy for the wound. So I'll wear it while I teach, then go back to my office and take it off, rinse with saline, and then treat with polysporin. It's not great, but it's better than having an open face wound or re-infecting it with makeup. Okay, those are my suggestions--for whatever they're worth. Sorry for the length of this post, but lots of info here that I hope will help others struggling with this problem. Personally, I pray you kick the habit and never have to use these steps at all. Until then, maybe you can find something useful here. Hang in there, friends!
7 Answers
I am not crazy
October 27, 2010
I am so relieved to have found this site. My first spots or lesions appeared in 2005, first one on my left breast & then they started on my arms, next face, legs, thighs & buttocks, basically itching all over my body. After many Dr. visits & oral medications, topical creams & lotions, being prescribed, nothing was working. I was spending a fortune on this stuff that wasn't helping. Scrapings were sent to Lab for identification, but result came back that nothing could be found. I was referred to a Dermatologist & he diagnosed it as Leishmans Disease, prescribed several meds & topicals & sent me on my way. After almost a month of using these prescribed meds & topicals, I could not see no difference, so my GP referred me to another Dermatologist, who had the audaciy to tell me it was my nerves..more meds prescribed, did nothing for my sore itching body. In 2006 I was hospitalized for another problem & while I was there Dr. decided to surgically cut one of these lesions out & sent to pathology. This time the result came back that I had scabies. So I went through the process of getting rid of scabies, which was very painful. My husband had our house completely fumigated for this while I was still in hospital, just in case this was the problem. My Dr. said he knew it wasn't scabies. I had no marks on hands, fingers , wrists, feet or toes. Scabies is very contagious no one ele in my household had any problems with itching. Still again in 2007 I was sent to see another dermatologist who had no idea what it could be (at least he was honest). In between all these visits to dermatologist, I was also referred to a Psychiatrist, who also said it was nerves, a Neurologist who had no answers who had no answers at all. It wasn't until a year ago I was scratching unconsciously at one of he lesions & something popped out, I used a magnify glass to get a closer look & lo & behold..under the scab was these 5 little spikes & in the lesion itself was a round white pearly object which I had to use a needle to irridicate & when I got it out that lesion bled hard. Within 4 days it had healed almost completely. So I put these objects on a slide & took them to Hospital Lab for diagnosis. The report came back that nothing could be seen, so I have been very careful when removing scabs & have found the same things repeatedly. Still have no answers, they come they go, new ones develop overnight. I must say though I am now using a cortecosteroid cream that seems to be helping a bit, but the scars these things leave will be with me for the rest of my life. I have not worn a short sleeve or sleeve less shirt in 6 summers & wears long pants all the time. So self conscious about how my arms & legs look. Thank goodness my face has been lesion free for 2 years now, but I still have the scars..That I can deal with. Hope this lengthy note has helped someone out there to let you know you are not alone with this problem. Will anyone ever be smart enough to actually diagnose what these things really are???
Aargh
October 28, 2010

In reply to by I am not crazy

Bless your heart! Sounds like you have had an awful experience! I know exactly what you're talking about, though. Part of the reason I am so prone to digging is that most of these raised scabs have those hard, clearish-white spikey things underneath--very different from scar tissue. When you remove them, they leave a tiny hole or indention behind. What the HELL are these things? There is an old post here (listed under the topic "what's under your scab?") that addresses that, but no one seems to have an answer and I haven't found anything on the internet about it either. Removing those little suckers seems to help for awhile (after the spot stops bleeding), but they often come back. I use polysporin but I try to wait until the area "dries" a bit so that that petroleum-based stuff won't lodge in those open pores. I dunno. Maybe it's better to just slather everything in it. I have a couple of nasty scars on my face, but the one I can't get to heal right now is on my neck. It sucks always wearing scarves and turtlenecks everyday but what else can I do? I'm taking Solodyn (antibiotic) to prevent infection and ibuprofen and naproxen to keep down the inflammation and pain. I'm using a silicone patch scar treatment at night, and my derm is injecting those raised scars with a steroid mix. I've only had one shot so far with no real effect. (Except it hurt like hell and bled for an hour) I'm supposed to go back next week for another round of shots, so we'll see. Thanks for sharing your story, "I'm not crazy" I love that user name. Obviously you and I are sticking with screen names that reflect our frustration. I actually do feel like I'm crazy for doing this. Hope you are doing better and can find relief soon. Best wishes!
snowjewel
November 28, 2011

In reply to by I am not crazy

OMG..I though I was alone.. I hope one day someone does find out what they are. Seems like it getting worse because when I first started looking online, there was no info on this subject..now I find yours and a few others. Hopefully a dermatologist somewhere will take this serious and research it. I have a video on youtube of me pulling one of these out (snojewel thing.3g2). I am hoping someone sees it and tells me was it is. I hate them! Take care and I hope there is an answer for us soon.
imapicker
November 09, 2010
hi guys..got an eval from my 3rd dermatologist. mind u that ive tried every product under the sun. ive heard of "duoderm" 4 wound ulcers, but never 4 an open facial sore. i have had a nonhealing sore on my cheek for almost 3 months. yes really..it is about 1cm in diameter excluding the scarring and reddness. its hard to say how deep bcuz the skin tissue is "boggy" or "mushy"..i cant even believe im saying this...the sore also has hard scar like tissue. (possibly kelloids im guessing from what ive read.) and about..gulp..1cm deep..ON MY CHEEK!i have also noticed that above the sore just under what appears 2 b good skin, there is like an air pocket. probably from where i tweezed out a nasty rubbery "thing" which KILLED!! and bled profusely. i actually could see the rhythem of my pulse. eeeeeww! im not kidding. anyway..just so u all get the gist of my nasty facial sore...this new doc prescribed the duoderm. i have only had it on for 9 hrs, and it already looks like its gonna work. i like the product for a couple reasons: 1. the bandage can stay on for up to 3-5 days. its not the kind of bandage youre supposed to peel of and on daily. but of course i HAD to peek, and was pleasantly surprised that some of the "boggy" tissue looks as if its healing, as the sore appears a little smaller. I will certainly keep u all posted. 2. by having the sore covered with a thick "gel-like sticker" helps me keep my fingers away. (especially since i think its already working)the only bad thing is the obvious look to it. (but then again, we hide anyway right?) like i said, i will definately keep u all up to date with the healing process....please remember....watch out for "over-killing" your skin with 2 many products.
Aargh
November 24, 2010
Right now I'm using Biafine--a prescription ointment my dermatologist just prescribed for ulcerated wounds. It works beautifully--as long as I leave it alone, which is obviously hard for me to do. But bit by bit, the wound is healing. I am going to have another large, nasty scar or my neck, but I can live with that as long as I can just get this perpetual wound healed!! I've been picking at it for almost a year off and on--and almost every day for the last six months. This ointment is 30x better than Polysporin!! It is used for surgical and full-thickness wounds but my BCBS insurance did not cover the cost. It was about $65 for a very large (thankfully) tube but trust me, well worth the money. If you've got a nasty wound that won't heal, please ask your doctor about this ointment or a similar equivalent. I wish mine had prescribed this a year ago when I was having so much trouble. I've no idea why he is just now giving it to me. Oh, and I also take Solodyne antibiotic and spironactyllone to help with healing and prevent these hormonal breakouts. So far, so good! No new pimples--just the old wounds I'm trying to heal.
metoo
November 25, 2010
Thank you so much for all this advice! Soooooo many times I have been so exasperated with picking. Even if there isnt a way for me to just make this go away, there HAS to be a way to make it easier, to help us out after the damage is done. Even though I pick, and i HATE that I do, being able to cushion the aftermath can go a LONG way for self esteem, and what sounds like for most of us, it can help us leave our permanent hiding places, even if it's just for a little while!!! This is great stuff! I Hope more people post about what they use for 'damage control' after picking, after all, at this point, we are the best resources for one another.

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