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Those little white plugs and the painful nodules that multiply
Location: Central California
Age: 45
Health in General: Good
Diagnosed Illness: 10+yrs Fibro, Hypersommina/Chronic Fatigue (sleep mean 1.4), Chemical sensitivity, Noise Sensitivity, Allergies to molds, GERD ,Tachycardia, Double jointed through out (means I have shallow joint sockets), Lactose intolerant, IBS
Skin Health:
Youth - tight pores little to no blemishes, very fair completion, no scaring, average sun exposure
Late Teens Early Twenties - mild facial acne, sever back acne.
Late Twenties through Early Thirties - Oily hair that required daily washing, Oily scalp, oily completion, pours slightly visible, light to moderate acne on face with moderate back acne constantly.
Sought Medical Intervention from Dermatologist at age 30 and was prescribed Acutaine
Outcome: EXCELLENT!
Fast Forward 10 years to current:
Strange facial smell. Aprox. 6 open lesions, all on right side of face. Scalp sores, and athletics foot (sever) most of my nails have fallen off.
This began about 3 years ago with an under the skin eruption of what I thought was a pimple. After about 4 to 6 months of attempting to extract all of the congestion, I seen improvement. New nodules began to appear. I developed one on my rt, cheek, 3 on my chin, one on my frontal jaw line, 2 on my forehead and 2on my nose.
These were usually not painful but would become extremely festered to what appeared to be a white head. Not able to resist the temptation to squeeze, I would attempt to pop these things. Never once did any of these things pop, in fact they only multiplied and got larger.
About October of 2013, I started noticing a build up on my scalp. When I scrubbed my hair with shampoo it would hurt in a few spots. The spots felt like gaping holes and they would ooze. These were extremely painful and interrupted my daily living. While attending to my nightly routines of washing my face I discovered I very large lump on the lower right side of my skull. It was projecting up from my scalp and was about the size of my thumb. The next morning I called my FD and made a appt. to have her exam. She looked at my scalp and concluded that it was a fungus. And the knot on my scalp was a swollen lymph. Nothing was prescribed and I was told to go purchase Selcin Blue and that should cure me right up. After one week of use my condition had only gotten worse. I went to the pharmacy to see if there was any other product I could buy since it seemed that the blue stuff wasn't.
I was at a loss with all the products so I made my way to the Pharmacist on duty and explained my condition to him. He was very helpful in assisting me to a better product but he also advised me to contact my doctor for a script as the condition I was diagnosed with would not be cured with OTC shampoos. He explained to me that I needed a prescribed shampoo along with an oral anti fungus. I call the office and left this info with my nurse. I must say that I was more then surprised when the return call from my doc. Was to tell me to continue with the shampoo for another 10 day and nothing else was suggested. BUT THIS WASNT WORKING AND MY CONDITION WAS GETTING WORSE.
Frustrated by this and in great pain from these open sores I went to our local urgent care. There I was seen by a doc who examined my scalp and said it was a staff infection. She prescribed a round of antibiotics and I was on my way.
The scalp sores did heal but the growths on my face excelled. One of those that is on my chin took on a different look. I started looking like a wart. i left it alone until the moment I thought I seen a white looking sorta wormish thing poking out of it. It was one of those things that many here have described. It was a plug and there were many more to follow.
I worked that thing down over many weeks until I got every one of those things out but it wasn't until I began to use some Athletes foot cream on it until I noticed to start to die off.
Its been about 3 months and just last week that wart thing is coming back. I also still get scalp sores monthly and as of last week I now have a growth under my right eyebrow that bubbles and oozes with crud. I just want this to go away once and for all!
I will be seeing a derm. This thursday, but I do wish I could find a magic natural remedy to cure what ever this is that has plagued me.
In reply to By the way, would you mind by spottyface1
These plugs are parasites. DO NOT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOUR OTHERWISE …and believe me, they’ll try (ill-informed dermatologists included). The parasites are called Demodex mites. That plug is the adult stage of the mite. Usually, humans are only inhabited by Demodex folliculorum and Demodex brevis. I suspect you’re describing the Demodex injai, the "large-body" Demodex. You'll want to get rid of these things ASAP and with extreme prejudice. I wound up with an all-out infestation because it took me 7 years, 5 useless dermatologists, and 2 ill-equipped primary care physicians to figure it out. One dermatologist accused me of making the sores myself and suggested I take an anti-depressant. But, don't get me started on that... I even had an elevated IGg because my system was so irritated by them. Anyway, back to the mites …The adults move around on your skin (usually at night because they don’t like light) and give you an itchy, crawly sensation. After they mate, the pregnant female emerges to lays eggs. When the pregnant female comes out, it looks kind of like a regular pimple. But, no puss comes out it-only fluid- and it gets red and irritated if you mess with it. The eggs she lays around the area where she emerged, that look kind of like "spindles." They’re down inside your skin but have little white hairs sticking out of your pores. Those hairs get a little thicker and will sometimes fall out as the egg evolves into an adult mite. Don’t bother pulling them out. The hairs will simply detach and the mite will stay in your pore. The adult mites are NOTHING NICE. They have, what I call venom (for lack of a better word), that causes a sever immune response. If you mess with them, they create this clear fluid that makes a hole in your skin. If you persist, they will make you bleed profusely. I think that stuff is an anti-coagulant too! After you lose the battle (and you will), your skin feels like it's on FIRE. Depending upon how much you messed with them, you'll either have a sore spot that won't heal or a plasticky quasi-scab looking thing …on top of a sore that won’t heal. If you lift up the plasticky scab, you can see the adult mites attached to the underside of it. I say that to say this: DON’T BOTHER MESSING WITH THEM. You will not get them out without putting a deep hole in your skin. They just dig down deeper if you try to pull them out with tweezers. The immune response will make a real mess of your face. You cannot kill the adult Demodex with creams because they move down into your pores beyond the reach of topical miticides. You cannot kill adult Demodex with ingested miticides because they have a hard outer shell that protects them from absorbing the chemicals. If you pinch one of those white plugs really hard with some tweezers you can hear it crunch. (I even tried applying a tiny bit of RAID …didn’t work.) I got rid of the MF’ers with 3 things: (1) Ivermectin, (2) Permethrin SFR, and (3) sulfur paste (all of which I found at the local feed store for animals). First: Use Ivermectin to kill the mid-stage mites. I used the equine version. It’s a paste with 1.87% Ivermectin. (DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. IVERMECTIN DOSES ARE DETERMINED BY WEIGHT. I SIMPLY USED THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF PASTE FOR MY WEIGHT. I HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL, BUT BE CAREFUL). Within 6-8 hours of your first dose of Ivermectin, you'll see the mites pushing out of your pores IN DROVES. Because it only kills the mid-stage mites (not eggs or adults), you’ll need to take Ivermectin once a week, for 4-6 weeks. When you take the Ivermectin, change your bed sheets every night, for at least three nights. Also, buy a few extra pillow cases so you can have a newly washed pillow case every night for at least four weeks. I STRONGLY suggest this measure because the mites wreaked havoc on my scalp. My hair has not grown for more than 3 years. You may want to use Selson Blue shampoo for 4 to 6 weeks, just in case. Second: Use Permethrin SFR, which is 38.6 % Permethrin, to kill the eggs. Dilute it in a spray bottle and spray EVERYTHING in your house, including mattresses, couches, carpets, etc. …EVERYTHING. Then, vacuum really good, and spray EVERYTHING again. Buy new pillows too. Wash ALL CLOTHING and LINENS in hot water. Put them in the dryer on “high heat.” I even lightly sprayed the Permethrin solution on the dried laundry, and the replaced bed sheets. Permethren is not really toxic to humans, and it’s odorless once it dries (PLEASE READ THE PACKAGING THOROUGLY). WHILE I DON’T RECOMMEND THIS: I poured ¾ cup of the Permethrin SFR in my bath water. After soaking for a short time, there were so many eggs (with the white hairs) that my bath water had a film on it. I only did this because I had a full-on infestation. Third: Apply the sulfur paste all over your body. It’s a little tricky to apply, so I suggest wearing gloves. Also, it’s really thick and has a strong smell. I used Pierce’s All Purpose Nu-Stock. I had to mix the paste with baby oil to get it to spread. You’re supposed to wear it, kind of like calamine lotion, for 3 days straight. Then re-apply, on top of the first application, and wear for another 3 days. The objective is to keep the adult mites from mating and laying new eggs. I realize this is a lot. But, BELIEVE ME, you do not want to be infested with these things. This has been a 7-year nightmare for me …finally coming to an end. Good luck!
In reply to These plugs are parasites. DO by pthesmith
Hi Pthesmith,
How did your protocol work out for you? Are you rid of these things for good now? Thanks for responding!
In reply to Hi: Please read my post here by mace760
These plugs are parasites. DO NOT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOUR OTHERWISE …and believe me, they’ll try (ill-informed dermatologists included). The parasites are called Demodex mites. That plug is the adult stage of the mite. Usually, humans are only inhabited by Demodex folliculorum and Demodex brevis. I suspect you’re describing the Demodex injai, the "large-body" Demodex. You'll want to get rid of these things ASAP and with extreme prejudice. I wound up with an all-out infestation because it took me 7 years, 5 useless dermatologists, and 2 ill-equipped primary care physicians to figure it out. One dermatologist accused me of making the sores myself and suggested I take an anti-depressant. But, don't get me started on that... I even had an elevated IGg because my system was so irritated by them. Anyway, back to the mites …The adults move around on your skin (usually at night because they don’t like light) and give you an itchy, crawly sensation. After they mate, the pregnant female emerges to lays eggs. When the pregnant female comes out, it looks kind of like a regular pimple. But, no puss comes out it-only fluid- and it gets red and irritated if you mess with it. The eggs she lays around the area where she emerged, that look kind of like "spindles." They’re down inside your skin but have little white hairs sticking out of your pores. Those hairs get a little thicker and will sometimes fall out as the egg evolves into an adult mite. Don’t bother pulling them out. The hairs will simply detach and the mite will stay in your pore. The adult mites are NOTHING NICE. They have, what I call venom (for lack of a better word), that causes a sever immune response. If you mess with them, they create this clear fluid that makes a hole in your skin. If you persist, they will make you bleed profusely. I think that stuff is an anti-coagulant too! After you lose the battle (and you will), your skin feels like it's on FIRE. Depending upon how much you messed with them, you'll either have a sore spot that won't heal or a plasticky quasi-scab looking thing …on top of a sore that won’t heal. If you lift up the plasticky scab, you can see the adult mites attached to the underside of it. I say that to say this: DON’T BOTHER MESSING WITH THEM. You will not get them out without putting a deep hole in your skin. They just dig down deeper if you try to pull them out with tweezers. The immune response will make a real mess of your face. You cannot kill the adult Demodex with creams because they move down into your pores beyond the reach of topical miticides. You cannot kill adult Demodex with ingested miticides because they have a hard outer shell that protects them from absorbing the chemicals. If you pinch one of those white plugs really hard with some tweezers you can hear it crunch. (I even tried applying a tiny bit of RAID …didn’t work.) I got rid of the MF’ers with 3 things: (1) Ivermectin, (2) Permethrin SFR, and (3) sulfur paste (all of which I found at the local feed store for animals). First: Use Ivermectin to kill the mid-stage mites. I used the equine version. It’s a paste with 1.87% Ivermectin. (DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. IVERMECTIN DOSES ARE DETERMINED BY WEIGHT. I SIMPLY USED THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF PASTE FOR MY WEIGHT. I HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL, BUT BE CAREFUL). Within 6-8 hours of your first dose of Ivermectin, you'll see the mites pushing out of your pores IN DROVES. Because it only kills the mid-stage mites (not eggs or adults), you’ll need to take Ivermectin once a week, for 4-6 weeks. When you take the Ivermectin, change your bed sheets every night, for at least three nights. Also, buy a few extra pillow cases so you can have a newly washed pillow case every night for at least four weeks. I STRONGLY suggest this measure because the mites wreaked havoc on my scalp. My hair has not grown for more than 3 years. You may want to use Selson Blue shampoo for 4 to 6 weeks, just in case. Second: Use Permethrin SFR, which is 38.6 % Permethrin, to kill the eggs. Dilute it in a spray bottle and spray EVERYTHING in your house, including mattresses, couches, carpets, etc. …EVERYTHING. Then, vacuum really good, and spray EVERYTHING again. Buy new pillows too. Wash ALL CLOTHING and LINENS in hot water. Put them in the dryer on “high heat.” I even lightly sprayed the Permethrin solution on the dried laundry, and the replaced bed sheets. Permethren is not really toxic to humans, and it’s odorless once it dries (PLEASE READ THE PACKAGING THOROUGLY). WHILE I DON’T RECOMMEND THIS: I poured ¾ cup of the Permethrin SFR in my bath water. After soaking for a short time, there were so many eggs (with the white hairs) that my bath water had a film on it. I only did this because I had a full-on infestation. Third: Apply the sulfur paste all over your body. It’s a little tricky to apply, so I suggest wearing gloves. Also, it’s really thick and has a strong smell. I used Pierce’s All Purpose Nu-Stock. I had to mix the paste with baby oil to get it to spread. You’re supposed to wear it, kind of like calamine lotion, for 3 days straight. Then re-apply, on top of the first application, and wear for another 3 days. The objective is to keep the adult mites from mating and laying new eggs. I realize this is a lot. But, BELIEVE ME, you do not want to be infested with these things. This has been a 7-year nightmare for me …finally coming to an end.
In reply to These plugs are parasites. DO by pthesmith
i have same issue on both sides of my face. how long does it take to get in control.
In reply to i have same issue on both by TeeGee
Hi TeeGee,
I have been suffering, and I mean seriously suffering, with this for 3 and 1/2 years with spreading sores on my face. I won't go into the drama this has caused me. I started out thinking it was a bacterial infection...lots of rounds of antibiotics-trips to urgent care centers...nothing worked. Several dermatologists visits...They were no help what so ever! I had three cultures done...not a virus, bacteria, or fungus. I was sure that it was a fungus...but oral fungal medications, creams...nothing. Had a biopsy done...they said there was nothing there and that I must be doing this to myself. I knew I wasn't. As soon as I told the dermatologist that I thought I might have some sort of parasite...scabies/demodex...something...I got the 'you must have a mental problem, you're delusional' typical response. So, I dropped it and went home in tears. I tried ivermectin, didn't really help, then albendazole...made some progress....and then I finally realized what I was dealing with and it all made sense. This is terribly embarrassing and I have never told anyone, but if it helps somebody...here goes...I picked up a tapeworm from my cat. They lay all over me and my pillows, and I guess somehow I got infected with a tapeworm larva and it spread...I ordered praziquantel pure powder (100% pure), along with some empty gelcaps and started dosing myself. That was back in August and I am making tons of progress. It won't go away over night or in two weeks. The medicine killed the larva and the cysts on my face slowly began to die. The medical information on praziquantel says that dermal lesions caused by tapeworm should subside after 5 to 6 months. Considering that I've had this for almost 4 years, and that it hasn't been a full 4 months since taking the medicine...I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I'm not saying that everyone who is dealing with white plugs in their skin that multiply has a tapeworm larva skin infection...some people might just have keratosis pilaris, some might have demodex that can be cleared up with ivermectin, it might be a yeast for some people...but for me, it was none of those things...and it wasn't discoid lupus either...something else that the dermatologist insisted that it was (even though the biopsy was negative for it). For me, it was a tapeworm that I got from a cat...and it has been a living hell...(although I will say that it was worth it because I turned to Jesus Christ for help and drew closer to Him...I wouldn't change that for anything in the world...not even scar free skin) I hope this helps somebody. God Bless!
In reply to Hi TeeGee, by spottyface1
Hi, I appreciate your info..this is the worse nightmare I've ever had. Its been 6 years with countless doctors all providing no help other than they think I'm crazy. Do you happen to have any ohotos? I appreciate anu help possible.
In reply to Hi, I appreciate your info. by TeeGee
Hi TeeGee, I don't have any pictures other than what the dermatologist took...and I never want to see that guy again. Its difficult to describe the sores on my face because I don't know what to compare it to, it's like nothing that I have ever seen. (Several doctors said the same thing...They had never seen anything like it before...made me feel so good...that was after I had been going to doctors and dermatologists for two years begging for their help, all the while it was spreading and getting worse.) I would describe it as massive swollen lumps deep in my face, yellow ooz and eventually yellowish stringy skin, hardened skin, the small round white plugs that sometimes I could get out...sometimes I couldn't. Sometimes little white spindles sticking out of my skin, really painful but sometimes it also itched. The main thing is that it spread, under my skin...I don't know why doctors were telling me that I was doing it to myself, they could feel the deep hard cysts/nodules under my skin...how was I creating those myself...and why would I do that. I am a fairly intelligent and educated, I'm not a drinker or a drug user. I felt that after going through the typical things that might cause this...bacteria,fungal,some sort of virus, and repeated cultures proved negative for these pathogens, that it wasn't such a ridiculous stretch to consider some sort of possible parasite...something just really common and easy to pick up. I even told them about the stray cat that I rescued which might have been the source of a possible parasite. (Although at that time I was thinking tapeworm...more like some kind of mite...I didn't know what it was, but it had to be something along those lines) The doctors never once considered for a moment that it was possibly a parasite. They immediately shut that possibility down even though the numerous medical tests that I had done provided no answers and I continued to suffer (and am still suffering) as a result. Curezone has some great information and that's where I learned about praziquantel and albendazole. Please let me know if there is anything I can do, and please keep me updated. I wonder how many people are suffering with something like this who have been scorned by doctors.
In reply to Hi TeeGee, I don't have any by spottyface1
Hi fab to scab,
Thanks do much for the info. I truly am going crazy. I dont have a cat.. but i have been exposed to cats. helping my mom always with her 2 cats cleaning up the litter and things. So maybe i caught something like you have from the cats. I really cant stand any if these doctors. They act as if I am some crazy person in need of mental help, or that i am the cause of these lesions. I am 45 yrs old & I have raised 2 fine boys age 22 & 19.. I have never used drugs in my life. I rarely ever have a drink of alcohol other than maybe a special occication. The doctors have my chart history showing i am if soubd mind. other than this issue, yet they still treat me as if i am a crazy wacko. Really makes me so upset thinking my character is being torn into bits of crap. So Upsetting. This 6 yr battle has controled my life since it has started. i will try the info you sent in hopes i can find some help. I so appreciate you being so honest and sharing your journey. Thank You from the bottom if my heart. Thank You Thsnk You Thsnk You.
In reply to Hi fab to scab, by TeeGee
Hi TeeGee (fab-to-scab here, got my old username back)
I was just thinking about you and wondering how you are feeling, both emotionally and physically. If anybody can understand the trauma that this has caused you it would probably be me. If you need someone to talk to or someone just to listen, I will.
In reply to Hi TeeGee (fab-to-scab here, by spottyface1
Hi fab-to-scab,
i'm pretty sure I have Demodex mite infested in my face. I've used the borax with peroxide solution and tree tea. alot of stuff came forward. not that it all came out. so now i'm stuck with what to do next.
In reply to Hi TeeGee (fab-to-scab here, by spottyface1
Hi fab-to-scab,
i'm pretty sure I have Demodex mite infested in my face. I've used the borax with peroxide solution and tree tea. alot of stuff came forward. not that it all came out. so now i'm stuck with what to do next.
In reply to Hi TeeGee (fab-to-scab here, by spottyface1
Hi fab-to-scab,
i'm pretty sure I have Demodex mite infested in my face. I've used the borax with peroxide solution and tree tea. alot of stuff came forward. not that it all came out. so now i'm stuck with what to do next.
In reply to Hi fab-to-scab, by TeeGee
I TeeGee,
If you think that it's a demodex problem then I would definitely try the ivermectin, orally or topically or both. I took ivermectin orally and I didn't notice any side effects.You might even try some albendazole too.
In reply to I TeeGee, by spottyface1
Hi thanks, question? ivermectin 1.87 paste thats for horses is that correct. i did buy it..just havent used it as of yet..also what kind of albendazole should i buy?
In reply to Hi thanks, question? by TeeGee
Hi,
Yeah, ivermectin 1.87 paste for horses, just make sure that it doesn't have anything else in it. I bought vetrimec paste which is good for oral use and also topically because it's kind of like a cream. I also bought Ivermectin 1.87 apple flavored gel from Durvet. It didn't taste as awful but I don't know if it would be good to use topically. If you take the ivermectin paste orally, you will most likely gag on it...it's bad. So here's a tip: get some greek yogurt (I say greek yogurt because its much thicker and works better). Here's what I did - get two spoons, dip the first spoon in the greek yogurt and coat the spoon really good. Then take the ivermectin tube and squirt the paste on top of the yogurt coating (kind of towards the tip of the spoon) Then take the second spoon and get a spoonful of yogurt and glob it on top of the ivermectin and cover the ivermectin completely with the yogurt. Have something to drink in hand, something like juice or flavored water (wouldn't do anything with fiz but that's just me) Then just take the yogurt/medicine in one big lick and shove it right to the back of your throat and swallow (kind of like the way you might lick peanut butter off a spoon)- don't try and taste anything with your tongue thought...just get it down and take a big swig of the drink...you won't taste a thing. As far as the albendazole, I used valbazen oral suspension for cattle and sheep. I bought a baby liquid syringe and measured 5 to 10 ml and took it twice a day. Its worse than the ivermectin. I don't really have any good tips for it. I guess when you have suffered with this for as long as we both have...well that was enough motivation for me. Ivermectin works best on an empty stomach and it never gave me any problems. Albendazole is a whole different ballgame. You need to take it with 30-40 or so grams of fat in order to better absorb the medicine. DO NOT take albendazole on an empty stomach!! Also, a word of caution...When the medicine starts working and these buggers start to dye...it is not pleasant. It is very very likely that you will get worse before you get better. You may want to have some benadryl, ibprofen, and possibly even some antibiotics on hand. I know it sounds crazy to be taking veterinary medicines, but for me it was either take animal medications or continue to suffer without any hope of ever getting better because doctors could not or would not help me. What other choice did I really have?
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